Frequently Asked Question:
2 new tires; front or back?
I have a 2001 Mitsubishi Eclipse (front wheel drive) and I need two new tires. Last time I was at a tire shop they told me the new spec is to install new tires on the back of a car instead of in the front. He said there was a big lawsuit and it was decided you should have better traction on the rear tires (regardless of front or rear wheel drive) because if the rear tires lose traction you can’t steer them to get traction again. His logic was if you lose traction at the rear then you can turn your front wheels into the skid to keep from spinning out.
I live in Florida so I don’t have to worry about winter traction from snowy stop signs but we do get heavy rainfall. I think it makes more sense to have the new tires on the front.
Here’s my logic:
1. Front tires do 100% of the steering and 70% of the stopping. Makes sense to have the good traction on the tires responsible for steering and stopping.
2. On a front wheel drive car the most likely steering condition with poor traction would be understeer, not oversteer. Again, makes sense to have better traction up front here too.
3. Front tires would encounter standing water first, as they hit the water they’d push at least some of it out of the way for the rear tires, I think this makes hydroplaning a lot more likely on the front tires.
4. Older tires are more prone to a blowout. If I have to have a blow out I’d much rather have it on a rear tire than a front tire.
Have I got this wrong?
I also tried to figure out one more thing, what’s the shop’s motive for putting the new tires on the rear?
I could only come up with one answer. Front tires generally wear more quickly, especially on a front wheel drive car. If you put the old tires where the tires will wear more quickly, they’ll need to be replaced sooner. (In fact by putting my tires that are currently “the good pair” on the back I plan on getting at least another year or maybe two out of them they’re currently at 7/32.) Are the shops thinking they’re driving more business by getting the old tires to wear out sooner?
Answer by The Kooze
The mechanic is retarded, New traction is always better traction and new wheels ALWAYS go where the power goes. If you are front wheel drive, new tires always go on the front. I would never go back to that mechanic again
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Front tires, because rear tires aren’t as subjected to breaks.
I agree with you, at least in Florida.
If I can only replace two tires I always go with the front – regardless of whether the car is front or rear wheel drive.
I’ve had front and back tires blow out while driving, and it definitely sucks more to have the front ones fail, because you can’t steer at all.
Front controls steering. That’s where I would put the new tires.
Who ever told you that is an idiot.
Put them on the front if you want to.
It’s your car.
omg is it that serious you sound like you already know the answer to your question so just put em on the front and tell every one to screw… jeez was it that hard…
I totally agree that new tires should go on the front.
However, I cannot understand your question. You state ‘I need two new tires’. If you know you need tires why don’t you know where they are needed?
As usual, everyone got this wrong. Time for the professionals to step in.
Your logic is faulty, the tire store is correct. It is the official, stated policy of every tire manufacturer and all of the tire trade associations such as the RMA and TIA to mount the new tires on the rear axle when only 2 are being replaced. Better traction on the rear INCREASES SAFETY!
The reason is a loss of traction at the rear axle is likely to result in sudden and uncontrollable oversteer. The rear axle is critical for vehicle stability – they don’t just hold up the trunk. And trust me – if your going to have a blow out it is much better to have it on the front.
For an illustration of what I am talking about Michelin Tire has produced a 3-minute instructional video which is available on their web site.
You got some VERY bad advice. Put the new tires on the front. All 4 of your assumptions are correct. Find another tire shop.
it didnt make sence to me either but it is true, im a service manager and have recieved the same directive, personally i would still put the new on the front
mechanic stupid give him grenade pull pin run
Put them on the rear – if you have a blow out on the front, you merely steer the vehicle over to the shoulder. If you have a blowout on the rear, the odds of a roll over are greatly increased, especially if the driver tries to overcompensate.
Ah yes, as per usual a whole load of crap is being typed on here.
New tyres ALWAYS GO ON THE REAR. When you brake hard, the rear of the car lifts up, so it needs a tyre with greater traction on the rear. ALL tyre manufacturers will tell you this.
Go to Costco, and the guys there will tell you.
You can also go and apologise to your mechanic for calling him an idiot, as he is 100% correct.
EDIT: Just seen Mark F’s answer, and he is also 100% correct. It’s good to see there is not just arm chair know it alls on here.
You seem to have a better grasp of the situation than the guy that was giving you advice. I would contradict you in one aspect, properly aligned vehicles with tire pressure monitored correctly should wear at almost the same rate, that is unless you corner like a crazed driver. Rotating the tires about every 5,000 miles is a good way to monitor the wear and evaluate the alignment more closely. Best tires up front is the better choice, a blow out in the steering is very difficult to control.
FOOTNOTE: 7,000 miles later the tires were rotated front to back while checking the brakes. It’s not safe if you don’t have good brakes.
As usual, you are getting lots of uninformed and potentially dangerous advice here. Your tire shop was 100% correct. The better tires go on the rear, always. It does not matter if your car is front or rear wheel drive.
For safetys sake take some time and get informed.
Both titerack tech article and the Michelin video talk about rainy situation, the kind you might see in Florida.
At the very least play the michelin video clip at bottom of page second link, it very graphically explains the dynamics of what can happen if you put the tires on the wrong axle.
first i need to ask, which tires were you having replaced? front or rear? secondly did you authorize the tire installer to dis mount and re-mount all 4 tires from the vehicle? i think there is a valid point for both sides as you have just proved. i believe that they did the right thing as studies have shown they should do. if you don’t like the tire locations on your vehicle then just move them around yourself… simple fix. drive carefully!
New tires in the rear. If your front tires are slipping, you feel it right? Ever drive a rear wheel drive vehicle on ice? No? When that back end swings out, your adrenaline shoots up, and you steer with the front tires to get out of it. You already have decent traction on the front because of the engine and part of the transmission. Listen to people who might know what they are talking about.
According to the experts at the ire Rack, the theory is that the greater tread depthy should be at the rear in order to prevent the vehicle from hydroplaning. ou can read a full article on it here:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=52